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goDate(1201883969);February 1, 2008 at 10:39 AM
The Black Hebrew Pagans mark 2012 the year of the prophesied Blond
Hair, Blue Eye Holocaust will take place. Ironically, 2012 is also the
date the Ancient Mayans predict the world to end.
http://andgodmadelight.wordpress.com/2008/01/25/will-the-earth-know-peace-after-the-white-race-is-gone/
“2012 is the year when the Rapture of God will be complete and
Caucasian race will be consumed by the Ultraviolet Fires of the 2nd
Rapture of the Sun of God,” says Black Hebrew Pagan minister Yeshua
Baal.
“The earth will know peace when the white man is completely uprooted
from within it,” Black Hebrew Pagan minister Elija Baal says. “Once
the seperation of the Wheat and the Chaff is finished, we will indeed
return to Paradise.
“The paradox about the Paradise we are returning to is that we are
going forward to get there. The first Paradise was not perfect,
because imperfection was not known to all. Imperfecton has to be known
to all before we can reach perfection. Through the white man,
imperfection is demonstrated to all the universe and to all that
exists. Spiritual beings will choose and have chosen perfection and paradise
to the imperfection and chaos of savages.” I agree with anti black poverty champ & activist St. Nicolas Thief that Mel Gibson had it wrong. As opposed to all the wars on the planet being caused by the Jews; they are all caused by whites. Now here’s Thief’s thing: there is no such thing as white Jews … meaning the so-called Jews in the Middle East. “Those are just white people,” he says. “They may as well be American Christians. Don’t distinguish whites as they distinguish themselves,” he’s said. “They are all just one big group of racist imperialists.”
Following Jesse’s ‘Keep Hope Alive’ slogan, there is hope that after the Ultraviolet Holocaust of 2012 and all whites are burned from the earth, people of color will find peace … a better way.
http://andgodmadelight.wordpress.com/2008/01/22/16/
“Be not deceived. White science teaches man made toxins are responsible for the destruction to the Ozone layer allowing for the increased levels of ultraviolet light into our atmosphere and damages their skin, eyes and brains. The more ultraviolet light that comes through, the more their skin will burn, the more they will go blind and the more their psychotic behavior will increase.
“Their toxins are not responsible for the openings in the Ozone layer. Fashioning His light to discriminate between people of color and white people, the Divine opened the Ozone layer to burn the latter.
I find the above quote as reason to know that the spiritual beings on the planet can keep hope alive and, too, still believe in God.
“Poetic justice and mockery are better than equality” – St. Nicolas Thief. “Always desire rulership over equality.”
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It’s cute and all.
Maybe I should do something about it.
Maybe not.
get involved. That should liven things up.
I think it’s just a spammer promoting wordpress pages elsewhere.I just shake my head.
UV may shorten the lifespan of white folks without medical care and protective measures, but by the time the UV gets harsh enough to make us extinct, the black master race won’t exactly be in great shape. Even black people can get sunburn, it just takes a bit more.
Don’t waste your time.ultraviolet fires? ultraviolet holocaust?black hebrew pagan?
my understanding about 2012 on the mayan calander is that it will mark the end of the present era/cycle, characterized by noticeable change and upheaval, but not the end of the world or the rapture
funny how one can be completely bonkers and not be subject to forceable confinement.
I can forcibly confine him on the forum, but for me it’s reassuring to know that not all the racist, religious zealots are white… I agree with the recent comments made editorial columnist Sleugh Crooks: While bad things can be said about anyr ace, the worst things can be said about the white race. I don’t say this b/c I’m racist, he adds, I say it because it’s true.
The initial question I ask is: can the monster see its reflection in the mirror? The follow up question is: does the monster have a reflection? The last question: if the monster has a reflection and can see itself, would it change.
Perhaps the monster doesn’t know it is a monster. This excuse is lame. Slave owners during the period of slavery justififed their inhumane treatment of the people they abused by pretending they were less than human. Again, lame. They knew the beings they took from Africa were human.
I have heard a romantic arguement from today’s monsters stating: it was their own kind selling them into slavery.
This arguement’s got to be an indulgence into romanticism on behalf of the monsters using it. For them, it removes any trace of guilt that should be felt. The thinking’s got to be romantic because the alternative it suggests is sinister.
“You’re not smart enough to see around my cloud of smoke,” the monster is alternatively insinuating.
Africans inhumanity to africans doesn’t justify the behavior of those claiming to be the most civilized and intelligent ones on the planet.
Now, because the suggestion justifying their behavior was only used to mask their guilt – under the logic their smoke couldn’t be seen through, we know they are monsters. Insideous it is that the very use of it demonstrates: they know they are monsters too.
Without needing to provide any proof, It is very easy: every problem on the planet is the result of its monster race and be easily justified in saying it.
If today’s generation of monsters don’t successfully kill Obama, it won’t be for a lack of desire.
Why is it reassuring? I think any zealotry or racism is not reassuring AND detrimental to ALL of humanity. That “it’s not just us” sentiment is kind of trite. It doesn’t justify anything. That’s like saying, “Well at least I’m not the only one who’s a criminal. That’s reassuring.”This jackass is obviously a lunatic who is full of himself. I haven’t heard such bullshit rambling since causticveracity posted his Ted Jesus God “sermons”. (he posted them in jest) If I hear another idiot refering to Mayan calendar prophecies. I may just throw up! (Which is unusual for me because I’ve only thrown up 6 times in my entire life!) Personally, I think the spammer is someone who wants to cause a ruckus because today marks the beginning of Black History Month. Now this is just my suspicious conspiracy theorist nature rising, but I don’t think the spammer is black. I’m just sayin’… the timing is suspicious.
OK – who keeps track of how many times they’ve thrown up?
LOL! Me.When it doesn’t happen much, it isn’t hard to keep track.
Why, I don’t believe I’m any more full of myself than anyone else here, but thanks! 
I guess it’s for the same reason Fred Phelps being a Democrat makes me feel less guilty being a Republican.It’s just evidence that white people aren’t the only ones who have perpetrated bigotry over the years.
what are you collecting the evidence for????
When my god uses cold weather to kill all the black people in 2013 as vengeance for theirs using UV on us in 2012.
Now that was brilliantly hilarious!!!!May the Black Gods have mercy on your soul (for being a good jokster)!
LOL!
Saikotik, you are wearing your virtual emotions on your keyboard. I didn’t make it this way. Are you mad at the Sun of God or me?
Well … then … are you mocking me or God?Saikotik, repectfully, to deny you grew mad chips at your credibility. I say this b/c your virtual demeanor changed in your exchanges w/me.
You may not like (some) of the things I post, but you shouldn’t hold them against me.
Your note on the forum index emphasizes the importance of being able to discuss issues respectfully. That can’t be accomplished through name calling and threats like: I can control him in the forum. It makes your moderatorship look subjective.
I will say for the record: I’ve like your virtual style.
Funky Skunk
My moderatorship IS subjective.If I, as a white man, propagated a religious or spiritual belief that the white race is superior and that the blacks will be destroyed for their shortcomings, I would be labeled a white supremacist, a racist.
This is the exact same thing in reverse.
I am still waiting to see (outside of this thread’s title [suggested by you]) where I, as a a black man, stated or suggested the black is superior.No, Saik, you erroneously took me that way … it suggests something ugly.
The text implies corruption and decay, and states that of all races, the white race has done the most evil.If you look back on history, there is no one white race, and the various light-skinned peoples had no monopoly on inflicting harm.
Respectfully, the title is a direct reference toward me. Saik, in our recorded history, is it outside of the box to say the white race has done the most evil? Why, every destructive situation on every continent is a result of Western Imperialism & racism.Racism did not exist before white people. Respectfully, do you know its history? One does have to wonder about the diabolical mind that created it … the value of that mind … whether it (that mind) would be capable of evolving to know other things than hate, greed and the concept of shooting first and asking questions later.
Respectfully, a mind incapable of progress evolution: is it not worthy of the rapture of God?
There is no one white race. Scandinavian whites have had a fairly benign history.Greeks, Italians, Germans, British, Irish… There are so many shades and cultures.
What of tribal warfare that predates European involvement in Africa? What of the belligerence of the various tribes that inherited North and South America before us? The oldest treatise on warfare was brought to us from Asia, and war has followed homo sapiens from the moment kingdoms sprung into existence in Mesopotamia. The Japanese waged a culture and to some degree ethnic war on the Chinese and Koreans for centuries before they even knew of European men. From Japan to Siberia, Africa to the Yucatan, humanity is a nasty race, regardless of skin color.
One could even argue that there are in fact no races, only regionally-dominant traits. We are one species, one race.
Also, & again, are you mocking me or God?I say don’t waste your time mocking me. I’ve done nothing to you but share. Mock God.
I mock not God, nor you, only the silliness you’re spreading.
mockery of all except the invisible God of the West is in vain.
Every God of every religion is derived from the same principles of sun worship.My God is your God.
Why would you feel guilty for being a Republican?
Because they are so chock-full of dumbasses…and I say that as another Republican.
Yep, that’s the one.I think the problem is that the Republican party is sort of abandoning certain chunks of its constituency.
I don’t agree with Democrats at all, as a general rule, and now I don’t agree with Republicans on much. What’s a guy to do, you know?
LMAO! Chock-full huh? LOL! You really crack me up! 
As long as you recognized that we’ve been misled and bamboozled then I say it’s time to let go of the guilt.
that’s convienent and self accomodating.
There is only one political party in America. Myclette, pull your blinders off.I’m full of myself and your eye are wide shut.
Perrye,
The key thing you said is: my understanding.The noticible change and upheaval is the end of the West.
{snicker} If you mean skunkcousinsjr, I think you’ll find he’s sort of John Kerry. What I mean by that is that before he was a black supremacist he was white supremacist wizardoftruth. My guess is that Skunky’s stuff is supposed to just horrify white MindSayers so much that they gasp “Oh my god, Wizzie was right!” or some such.I’ll betcha he (I have to assume it’s a he) has a few more accounts waiting in the wings too.
Well, I like the S.P.Q.R. picture in Wizard’s blog.I just shake my head at these kinds of games.
If I have an opinion, I don’t generally cutesy it up much, which is why I’ve come off as abrasive more than a few times.
I think it’s a (very crude) attempt at a push-pull. Or maybe he’s just a plain old troll, and this is what he figures will get the natives riled up…like the natives need any help getting riled up. Hard to tell.
When I get riled up, I tend to kill and have stuffed the thing that got me that way.
That Classic White American.
The classic human being.Hunting and killing is as old as humanity.
Older, actually.
What you don’t remember is The Paradise that existed before barbarity. Tell me: do you think humanity/existence has never been better than this?
Not so long as men have been imperfect, black, white, or otherwise.None of us remember a Paradise before. I don’t know about you, but I wasn’t alive back then.
Because you don’t remember Paradise doesn’t mean others don’t.
Please, enlighten me. How could you remember something that long predates your existence?
I didn’t know who he was (though obviously the reference to WIZARDoftruth in a race baiting blog made me suspicious) and was suckered in by him last week. I thought he was actually resenting something for discussion until he refused to understand a simple definition and make false accusations about what I said in response to his post. I commented once more and then ignored him when he tried to bait me 2 or 3 more times (I didn’t even return to read his responses).I’m still naive enough despite my background to be surprised people still think they can get away with such pot stirring.
should have been PREsenting, not resenting – crumbs in the keyboard!
Pot stirring with an egg beater…
Do you remember the episode of Seinfeld with the guy who spoke of himself in 3rd person? If so, or otherwise, SkunkJr.’s no supremacist. Where can you point to anything where you find me saying black skin is better than white skin??? Isn’t that what supremacy is all about. Masivemaple, now you called me a name, allow me to call you one: garbage. You are virtual garbage. You are virtual garbage because, based on what Siak wrote, you made some assumptions about me.Skunk’s stuff isn’t suppose to horrify whites. Skunk’s stuff is for the Glory of God. God’s work here, making His light discriminate, deserves a testimony. For nothing can be said to white people to where they understand what their ancestors did and how they perpetuate it. So, in the absence of their being able to understand that which is easily seen, the Sun of God (who we know as Jesus) fixed it. Yes, poetic justice & mockery are richer than equality!
Revelations: Is this the man who did cause all the nations of the world to tremble? Edited to include: He can’t even stand in the sun without burning up.
“If you can’t figure out how to use ultraviolet light to the advantage of your race, you shouldn’t be black,” Elisha Ali, a minister in the Yacub13X Black Sun Worshiper movement says.
After the Jena Six incident (I was there) we met at Grambling, those brothers and sisters were so worked up they want to bring Ozone layer down all together. “Who cares if we all burn up. Vengence is mine thus saith the Lord,” one student said.
You do realize that having darker skin only provides you some protection from UV, and that even under today’s UV levels, black people suffer from skin cancer, right?My ancestors did no harm to your people, and no black man has ever suffered because of me. What of that?
The vast majority of Pennsylvania Dutch, while being white, have historically kept to themselves as poor farmers, and the same can be said for the majority of the Irish who immigrated to America, and the Irish are some of the most susceptible to UV.
Explain that one.
Hi, Saik, you said:
You do realize that having darker skin only provides you some protection from UV, and that even under today’s UV levels, black people suffer from skin cancer, right? Skunk:
Consider your sources (Western science). Imagine Western science revealing anything that suggests white skin’s inferiority. LOL! The truth is: Blacks and people of color get a form of the plague attacking the skin of the so-called fair on areas of our bodies that DO NOT receive adequate levels of Ultraviolet Light. It is opposite. You aren’t suppose to know that. Imagine this great irony! Western science didn’t start studying eumelanin until the late 1940s (when they determined it is what prevented us from burning). Until then, it was just the trash that made us black). Err, blacks have eumelanin (black & brown) … whites have phaeomelanin (red & blue). The Nation of Islam’s Master Fard Muhammad brought this ancient knowledge with him when he came to the United States in the early 1930s. Neither blacks nor whites knew it. Imagine the revelation it was and obviously, still is!
Saik said:
My ancestors did no harm to your people, and no black man has ever suffered because of me. What of that?
Skunk:
This is either a smoke screen of vanity or ignorance. All white people benefited and benefit from the legacy of the African American Slave Trade. In saying that, now u know blacks suffer because of that, you.
Saik:
The vast majority of Pennsylvania Dutch, while being white, have historically kept to themselves as poor farmers, and the same can be said for the majority of the Irish who immigrated to America, and the Irish are some of the most susceptible to UV. Explain that one.
Skunk:
We learn more about the wrath of God and His judgement daily. Once upon a time He damned the whole black race. Now, He’s damned the whole white one. Go figure.
I did not, nor have my ancestors gained anything from the slave trade. Historically, my people have been persecuted in Europe, and moved to the northern colonies to live a simple agrarian lifestyle apart from most of the other immigrants. The only thing we’ve benefited from is our own sweat and blood.All Americans, however, have benefited to some degree from the first slaves here, and they were whites. Other Europeans who were either convicts or indentured servants(a lot like the modern wage slave). The African slave trade was a later development.
As for skin cancer, blacks still die from it. Too much UV is bad for most of the lifeforms on Earth.
Whites world wide benefited from the Trade and the concept of white superiority. Yes, some do and did benefit more than others.Saik, your learning curve on UV is Belled . Black Science refers to the condition that blacks and people of color get from not getting enough UV light as amonalem. One of the Yakubs has already proven people with eumelanin have the ability to transform into raw energy from flesh.
Western science will always safegaurd Western Purian Interests and its basic premise of supremacy.
Can you wrap your mind around the idea that your “Black Science” may be just as slanted and bent as you accuse “Western Interests” of being?
If you can get other people to fall for your bullshit, then go ahead and play your games. I know exactly what you are, so save your multiple-poster schticks–I’m not interested.Now be a good little troll and fuck off.
That’s not very nice.You forgot the Louisville Slugger wrapped in razor wire.
I never claimed to be nice. And I personally prefer a good old-fashioned crowbar.
I don’t go anywhere without my crowbar and/or hatchet.
I find a .45 easier to walk around with.
Ah, out in the hills, concealability isn’t an issue. I can walk around all day with a rifle slung on my shoulder and no one will think anything of it.
What next? Ppl these days….
2012 is sometimes claimed to be a great year of spiritual transformation (or apocalypse). Many esoteric sources interpret the completion of the thirteenth B’ak’tun cycle in the Long Count of the Maya calendar (which occurs on December 21 by the most widely held correlation) to mean there will be a major change in world order.Accordingly, several eclectic authors claim that a major, world-changing event will take place in 2012:
- The 1995 book The Mayan Prophecies linked the Maya calendar with long-period sunspot cycles.
- The book 2012: Mayan Year of Destiny claims the Maya may have been instructed in their wisdom by disembodied entities from Orion and the Pleiades. Contact was maintained through shamanic rituals conducted in accordance with the movements of planets and stars. However, some Mayan priests living and working in Guatemala assert that there is no legitimacy to this theory.
- The 1997 book The Bible Code claims that, according to certain algorithms of the Bible code, a meteor, asteroid or comet will collide with the Earth.
- The book The Nostradamus Code speaks of a series of natural disasters caused by a comet (possibly as above) that will allow the third Antichrist to disperse his troops around the globe under the guise of aid in preparation for a possible nuclear war, although in the strictest sense it is unspecific as to nuclear war or some other natural or man caused destruction.
- The book The Orion Prophecy claims that the Earth’s magnetic field will reverse.
- The 2005 book Beyond 2012: Catastrophe or Ecstasy by Geoff Stray reviews several theories, prophecies and predictions concerning 2012 and finds where authors have used faulty information or have bent the truth to fit their theories.
- The 2006 book 2012: The Return of Quetzalcoatl by Daniel Pinchbeck discusses theories of a possible global awakening to psychic connection by the year 2012, creating a noosphere.
- The 2007 book Apocalypse 2012: A Scientific Investigation into Civilization’s End by Lawrence Joseph does not make any specific new predictions, but it reviews a number of 2012 predictions made by various sources, and presents arguments for the possible existence of dangerous positive feedback loops involving solar storms, Earth’s magnetic field, cosmic rays, hurricanes, global warming, earthquakes, and supervolcanoes that may be on the verge of erupting.
Other prophecies and apocalyptic writings and hypotheses for this year include:
I wouldn’t mind a peak oil catastrophe. It’d be a major boost to the small scale ag interests such as mine, which rely relatively little on mechanization. While the rest of the economy collapses, more bodies will be available to work the soil, and we’ll return to a more common sense approach to life, even if only in small pockets of civilization.fjdjfgdjcfh
Doc Holliday: [ to Johnny Ringo, after shooting him in a duel] You’re no daisy! You’re no daisy at all. Poor soul, you were just too high strung.
This ain’t Dodge City. And you ain’t Bill Hickok.
There’s no need in reinventing the wheel and typing an original response to having offended someone in a forum’s sensibilities. There are some excellent ones already written. I just did a simple Google search. You can pick the one you’d like for me to write.Respectfully, Saikotik, I’m disapointed in you, particularly as a moderator. I thought (hoped) you were smarter and that this was an intellectual environment.
So If I offended your sensibilities with the blunt truth, then I apologise, I shall know to treat you with kid-gloves in future. … This one’s my favorite!
… your own posts that you reported this or that to the mods because it offended your sensibilities, not because it attacked you either real or imaginary. … I really liked this one!
debbye – I offer my humblest apologies if my simulated pirate-speak language has offended your sensibilities. In honor of your magnanimous generosity to mik … This one is too cute!
:-O Forgive me if I have offended your sensibilities. You’ll have to take a number though, the line for the complaint department forms at the rear. … Ripe w/sarcasm, you gotta love this one too!
There of course were/are plenty others. So don’t restrict yourself to just them.
Skunk
What else can you describe your posts as, other than anti-white propaganda with a religious slant?
Wyatt, I’m not sure I like that question. But, intellectually, it is much superior to your earlier comments. I knew you had it in you.I don’t think of myself as a black supremacist.I do like pointing out the poetic justice and irony in the elevated position white people, based on their skin color, placed themselves in. Yet, it is their skin that burns in the sun. The reason I abandoned Christianity and began studying with theNation of Islam, the Black Hebrew Pagans and the Yacub13 X sun worshipers is because of a sermon I heard where the minister said:
“Skin cancers and melanomas are the curse of God against white people for their skin sins and continued evil of today. In Daniel, Isaiah and Revelations God warns He will curse the evil with the Sores That Do Not Heal. Skin cancer and melanomas are these sores.
Based on their skin color, whites exalted themselves above everyone else on the planet and called everyone else: ugly, evil and inferior.
Now, that giving everyone else life burns whites’ skin.
That giving everyone else life is God. The sun is God. The sun hates white people. God Hates White people.
God has fixed His holy light to discriminate between black and whites so that it burns the whites.
Ultraviolet light is the fire of the 2nd Rapture burning evil from the earth.
 Saik, It was the ugliest yet most righteous thing I’d ever heard. Not just myself, but the whole congregation changed their beliefs that day.
The beautiful thing is that most blacks, despite not liking whites, are against Yacub13X’s declaration they take advantage of our natrual ability to burn white people’s skin with ultraviolet light (like in the story about Bob Barker above) and embrace the edict by Yeshua Baal that restrict spotting white in public.
I beseech you to continue on with your good heart!
While there are some evil Black Sun Worshipers out there. I am not one of them. Having said that, however, I must to say that I no longer believe in the invisible God of the Christians and Jews of the Middle East and the West. I reject the concept of Jesus as the son of God and know him as the Sun of God, who, as prophesied, has returned, riding high on a cloud, pouring His Lakes of Fires upon the earth. Ultraviolet light is that fire.
Have you been dumpster-diving again or what?
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panics’ does not offer a particularly appropriate explanation for this rape scare, but it does suggest fruitful lines of investigation by pointing to the relation between anxiety and the desire of the dominant classes in any society to maintain control. The hypothesis advanced in this case study is that fear of losing control was a constant undercurrent in the thinking of the settler minority. This substratum of anxiety rose to the surface in the form of a moral panic whenever disturbances in the economy or the body politic were severe enough to unsettle the mask of composure worn by the face of public authority. In a patriarchal society where women were part and parcel of property to be defended against threats from below, fear of rape was a special concern of white males. For that reason the study of colonial rape scares differ markedly from studies of rape pure and simple. Unravelling the complicated web of male concerns about gender, property and politics is a difficult business at any time, but some progress can be made by studies of this kind which focus on societies which believe they face a fundamental assault upon their domestic arrangements.(Read more)
Studies have shown that violent and aggressive criminals are more likely to have abused animals as children than criminals considered non-aggressive. A survey of psychiatric patients who had repeatedly tortured dogs and cats found that all of them had high levels of aggression toward people as well, including one patient who had murdered a boy. To researchers, a fascination with cruelty to animals is a red flag in the lives of serial rapists and killers. Says Robert Ressler, founder of the FBI’s behavioral sciences unit, “These are the kids who never learned it’s wrong to poke out a puppy’s eyes.”
Re: Eve Carson’s Family May Have Owned Slaves (Negros on the attack and victim blamin
Today, 01:47 PM 
racist troll drivel 
March 14th, 2008 at 9:02 am If you’re on probation and you commit a crime, your ass goes to jail. That’s how probation is supposed to work.From here on out, any judge who gives probation to someone who’s already on probation should be removed from his or her bench permanently. Many of the murder victims here in Charlotte, as well as in Raleigh, Durham, Chapel Hill, and other cities and towns all over this state, were killed by criminals who were repeatedly sentenced to probation by lazy, criminally-negligent, seemingly-afraid-to-do-their-job judges who, in my opinion, are clearly unqualified to be in their positions and who are partially responsible for those murders. You cut the guy loose and he killed someone; that person would still be alive if you’d done your job.What I want to hear about now is judges who ask “Is the defendant already serving probation?” and, when the answer is in the affirmative, reply with “Fine. Now he’s going to jail for the crime he already committed AND this new one. And I want it noted in his criminal record that he’s an habitual offender and should never be given probation again.”
March 14th, 2008 at 9:29 am Here’s my brilliant proposal — and you legal eagles can flesh it out –The Citizenship Deductible — We need to fess up and admit the State cannot — or will not — protect us from petty criminals. As a result, the State henceforth will not attempt to prosecute or apprehend suspects in involved in thefts or robberies resulting in losses of approximately $1000 or less.Instead, property owners will have the duty and responsibility to protect their own property. To that end, the charge of homicide will not be applied to any property owner using deadly force to protect OR recover their property valued over $1 up to approximately $1000.Over $1000, the citizen will be eligible for a badge and being duly deputized. Over $10,000 they will be eligible to replace any member of the General Assembly currently serving from the citizen’s district, provided that member themselves had not also recovered $10,000 or more in private property from criminals. Over $100,000, the citizen will be eligible to finish the current term of governor.
March 14th, 2008 at 11:16 am Doesn’t a violent crime mean you commit violence against another individual? Breaking and entering just doesn’t seem like a violent crime. Nor does having a fire arm while you are on probation.I’m not sure some conservatives won’t be happy until the U.S. resorts to a soviet style police state to fight crime.
March 14th, 2008 at 12:26 pm It shouldn’t matter what type of crime they commit while on probation… they should go to jail and serve a sentence. Probation is a freebie in NC… it means nothing. I’d say 3/4 of the arrested thugs I post on my website are on probation, electronic monitoring, etc. No doubt, if probation were enforced in NC, we would see less crime because the repeat offenders would be jailed on probation violations.
March 14th, 2008 at 12:56 pm Howie Says: “Doesn’t a violent crime mean you commit violence against another individual? Breaking and entering just doesn’t seem like a violent crime.”Only if you bastardize the meaning of the work violence (why is it that libs love misusing words?)violence–using or involving physical force intended to hurt, damage, or kill someone or something.dj
March 14th, 2008 at 2:01 pm From the news and record:“From the bench, Brown chided the media, saying they were focusing on the case because one of the victims was a young, white woman. Black crime victims, he said, don’t get nearly as much attention.”Ain’t that the truth.The kid who murdered Eve Carson was 17 years old. What in his life turned him into this monster? This kid isn’t an aberration. It happens every day, young black men killing mostly each other. Rarely does the violence make it outside the ‘hood.These people aren’t born with a “thug” gene. They are nurtured into thugs. Seems like it would make more sense to go after the source of the problem instead of continually plugging holes until another one pops open.I would start by legalizing drugs. And no, I’m not kidding.
March 14th, 2008 at 3:15 pm Yes, Howie, I want us to have Soviet-style justice here in the US. [rolls eyes]What I really want is this:1. If you commit a non-violent property crime, you can either go to jail OR you can get probation if it can be shown to the judge that this was a one-off event and you’ve learned your lesson…2. … unless you’re already on probation or parole, in which case you don’t get another bite at the probation apple: You’re going to jail.3. Crimes against a person (assault, rape, murder, etc.) should NEVER be punished with probation. There should be a jail term of at least a certain length, followed by early parole if they’ve been a well-behaved inmate.When people learn that “if you do the crime, you will do the time” has meaning, perhaps they will commit less crimes. This may not reduce the number of criminals, per se, but it will reduce the total number of crimes the criminals have the opportunity to commit.And if kids are being nurtured into thugs, all the more reason we should remove them from the streets. If you want to try to change things to discourage people from becoming criminals, great; but the ones who do commit crimes need to be locked up for the protection of the rest of us.
Right now, though, all these young punks are learning is that you can do pretty much whatever you want and there are no real consequences. That needs to end.
March 14th, 2008 at 4:17 pm Clay, I agree with everything you just said. By no means am I saying we shouldn’t arrest those who commit crimes. And I totally agree that there are way too many people who commit violent crimes who are walking the streets. The time served for commiting a violent crime should be substantial. No arguements there.In a way it goes back to legalizing drugs: our prisons are filled with people either using or selling drugs who spend a hell of a lot more time behind bars than many violent offenders. Get the drug offenders out of prison and maybe there would be room for violent criminals. The U.S. already has the highest precentage of prisoners in the world. Why? Because we think by keeping pot smokers behind bars we’re actually winning the “war” drugs.By the way, which lobbiests put the most pressure on Gov to maintain stupid drug laws? The lobbiests who represent prison unions. Go figure.
March 14th, 2008 at 4:26 pm Elect Pat McCrory as governor, and all of our problems with crime, gangs, and illegal immigration will
magically disappear.Who is setting the example for the youth in this community, when it is well-known that crime, gangs, and illegal immigrants are rarely proscecuted.Actions speak louder than McCrory’s words!
March 14th, 2008 at 9:37 pm What in his life turned him into this monster? This kid isn’t an aberration. It happens every day, young black men killing mostly each other.Some of the details emerging about the Lovette kid are that he was adopted by a solidly middle-class couple, but the adoptive father died a few years ago, after which, the kid started to tailspin. Whatever. To be honest, I really don’t care.But, more broadly, the problem is that absolutely nothing is actually expected of the black underclass by broader society, and this is particularly true of underclass males. No one really expects them to take school seriously, obey their mothers (or whoever got stuck raising them – fathers are practically an afterthought), obey the law, be monogamous, marry any of the mothers of their children, make any significant contribution towards the raising of such children, or hold a steady job. With the arrival of cheap immigrant labor over the past decade, they’re essentially superfluous. Well, except for being sperm donors to the women stupid enough to bear their progeny.The problem isn’t “poverty” (at least of any material sort) and it’s not discrimination. When both of those were a lot worse for blacks prior to the 1960s, they didn’t regularly produce adolescent sociopaths like these two.And none of this will change significantly until we begin making social policy that draws intelligent distinctions between the poor who are deserving of help (such as the elderly or disabled) and those who aren’t (such as these two able-bodied miscreants). The question isn’t how much does food stamps or Section 8 housing cost on the budget; it’s how much is it going to cost 15 years down the road when you’ve created a class of people who have none of the habits and mores necessary for self-sufficiency.The problem is that no one is willing to address it. The left likes it just the way it is and the right’s afraid of the political consequences of trying (not that the GOP wouldn’t find a way to screw it up in any event).
March 14th, 2008 at 10:31 pm What turns them into thugs? Good question. It’s one to which I suspect there is no single answer that can be applied in such a way as to allow a remeidal program to actually be expected to have an impact. For example, there’s a strong independent correlation between youthful violent criminal activity and illegitimate birth with no father in the home. But clearly that isn’t ALWAYS the case, and even if it were there really is no reasonable governmental approach to that with a prayer of being politically viable. There’s a much less strong correlation between poverty and crime, as well as incomplete education and crime, but in all of those things the correlation becomes almost insignificant the illegitimate birth, no fahter in the home kids are removed from the equation. That doesn’t realistically leave much room for remediation.
March 15th, 2008 at 1:09 am Eve Carson’s Family Owned SlavesEve Carson’s family may have owned slaves in Athens, Georgia. Plus, word on the streets is Eve was buying drugs and playing Privileged White Flaunt – where privileged whites drive through underprivileged black neighborhoods at dangerous hours to tease poor blacks with their possessions.
March 15th, 2008 at 1:27 am Please tell me those two links are satirical in nature.Because if they’re not, anyone who believes even one iota that she deserved what happened to her because of what her family might have done 150 years ago or what she might have done back in her hometown seriously needs to be taken out and beaten unconscious. I am not kidding.
March 15th, 2008 at 1:48 am The more disturbing thing than the probability of her family owning slave, is her going out and playing this sick game affluent whites play to mock impoverished blacks. If she was playing the Privileged White Flaunt or whatever, she deserved what she got. Too, if her family owned slaves and didn’t pay their reparations. If so (on the reparations) her Highlander actually belonged to Atwater and Lovett. That’s if she wasn’t seeking something more from them.
March 15th, 2008 at 1:54 am If she was playing the Privileged White Flaunt or whatever, she deserved what she got. Too, if her family owned slaves and didn’t pay their reparations.Wow. I mean, wow. That is possibly the most revolting thing I have ever read.
March 15th, 2008 at 1:59 am And just to be clear here: What is revolting is that you would somehow think it’s valid that a college student should deserve to be MURDERED because of something her family might have done back in the 1800s, or because of some tasteless game she might have played back in her hometown. Her murder is ABSOLUTELY INEXCUSABLE, and for you to suggest otherwise demonstrates that you are truly an awful human being.Please take your hatemongering somewhere else. (Jeff, let me know if I’ve stepped over a line here. But right now this “jixjacousins” creature has pissed me off more than anyone has in a very, very long time.)
March 15th, 2008 at 2:10 am No, Clay, HER BEHAVIOR IS WHAT IS INEXCUSABLE! To purposely drive around through impoverished areas where blacks live to FLAUNT your race and privilege (privilege that was acquired from the African American Slave Trade) THAT IS INEXCUSABLE! Why didn’t her family disclose they owned slaves before she was killed?